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3 hours ago, johnson4 said:

Nevermind, Apparently I can't read the description

Lol.

Medium is the best. 
 

coarse worked well for tags where it’s small letters so feel isn’t important but getting excess off and good bonding is. 
 

1 hour ago, Pastor Joey said:

Awesome I am about to buy a printer for this today. I have 2 options for same price a stylus 9600 or a r 3000. Which would be better for this. Trying to be up and running within a week at so.. so printer today material by wed.

R3000 will have more information support.

9600 would be nice and wide

53 minutes ago, Alex C. said:

By any chance you know where i can download RIp software to use L1800 as a DTF printer ?

You have to purchase it. Here is one option: https://store.opendtg.com/collections/software/products/kothari-rip-software-for-epson-l1800

Alot of people use AcroRIP found on ebay

1 hour ago, Martin Gaydarov said:

If the ink is water-based and the powder is acting as a binder for the pigment, I'd just replace the CMYK DTG inks

with standard pigmented water-based inks , which have much lower amount of resins and are much less likely to cause clogging problems even if the printer is not used for a longer time. In general, the pigments would be the same colour indexes, except maybe for the yellow, which for DTG is standardly P.Y.155. Cyan would in both cases be P.B.15:3, magenta P.R.122 and black is P.B.7. However, white would  still be the one for DTG as P.W.6 (TiO2 ), which has a very high density of  4.2 g/cm3, is more stable in this formulation. Cleaning fluid is based on deionized water and a selection of polyols, some amines and surfactants.    

The inks still have to not bleed on the film and be able to stand up in the washing machine.

5 hours ago, ketox said:

Thanks @johnson4,

Now Im printing on Film Roll,  Ek & Acro Ok!..  👍.  

Just The top Feeder still passes the film sheet direct to eject and ask,  want to resume or cancel? (works fine with plain paper)

The Front Feeder for Fine Art Paper still displaying wrong media... 

 

 

Load multiple sheets in the feeder and see if that helps. 1 single piece of film doesn't always feed correctly

4 hours ago, Glopear said:

So after removing the roller wheels, what are people doing about the film curving up and hitting the head? Is there an easy fiox for this? P600

Put a tray to keep the film end from dropping down.

UK Supplies: https://www.printerskingdom.com/product/dtf-ink-white-pigment-textile-ink-direct-to-transfer-film-printing-desktop-epson-edition-200ml/

Yes you need a DTG RIP

11 hours ago, CreativeAnchor said:

 

 

 

Just curious if anyone has tried printing on the film using the DTF inks with their DTG P600? By reading through this topic it looks like it should work. Just wanted to know if anyone had any luck? 

Yes we did our initial ink and film testing on a DTG.

35 minutes ago, LADYLINEN said:

Is there any rip software that supports newer printers like P6000 or similar?

I can check with Kothari.  Make sure the ink cartridges will be available and affordable. Some of those models have refillable cartridges but the chips are 1 time use and expensive.

30 minutes ago, Pickerofjunk said:

Andy when you say ink system does that mean one is pressurized and the other is not?

No. The l1800 has a built in bulk ink system. The 1430 is just cartridges.  Neither are pressurized. 

7 hours ago, johnson4 said:

On the p800 I worked with they just clip on. I didn't even take mine apart I just popped them off. From what I read the 3880 is the old version of the P800, so if it's anything like the p800 it should only take a few minutes to pop them off without any type of disassembly needed. 

Same with the p400... just reach in and pop them out. 

14 minutes ago, TiK80 said:

Hey, whats the difference between the Epson P600 & P400?

 

Also, Epson.com has in depth specifications for both

1 minute ago, Ikegwegbe said:

I have been wondering, what is the need for the platform in the video posted on the first page about converting Epson l1800 to a DTF printer, or do you only need to remove the rollers of the printer

It keeps the film from buckling up and hitting the printhead

I figured I'd make a post since this is one of the most popular questions right now.

The list of printers that are good for DTF is basically the same as for DIY DTG: 
 https://www.opendtg.com/topic/3-which-printers-to-use-for-diy-dtg/

You need an Epson printer with 6-8 colors / ink channels so you can print CMYK + White inks, available refillable cartridges, and compatible RIP software.

The most popular models are going to be the best to use unless you are fine with figuring things out on your own.

L1800 (1430 w/ bulk ink) is used a lot because it's cheap and available outside of the USA. It prints 13x19 but is very slow. 15 minutes plus for a full print. 6 channel printhead

P400 is at least 3 times faster than the L1800 / 1430 because it is a 8 channel DX5 printhead. Ink cartridges or CISS plug in right on top of the printhead so there is easy access to the head and not much wasted ink to flush the printhead out when the printer needs to sit for days without use. 13x19 max print size

P600 is fast like the p400 with a 8 channel DX7 printhead. It is better if you're printing daily with volume because of the built in pressurized ink system and available 80ml cartridges.  Because of the ink system not using often will cause white ink separation in the lines and you'll have to waste ink to get it out. 13x19 max print size

P800 has a wider 17" print width. It too have a ink system built in like the P600.

Many of these models are discontinued but places like OpenDTG have a stock of them.

NEW Epson P700 and P900. These aren't good for DTF / DTG yet because there is not refillable ink cartridges or RIP software for them yet.

There are older and smaller model Epson printers that will work. Some of them are listed here on the DIY DTG list: https://www.opendtg.com/topic/3-which-printers-to-use-for-diy-dtg/

Feel free to comment below with more models or information.

2 hours ago, Printboy said:

Why are the printers that people talk about for DTF mostly seem discontinued? P600, P400. 
 

Why aren’t we talking about the P700 p800 or p900 more than the p600/p400?
 

Trying to do my research before I buy a printer 

Because the new models don't have RIP software or refillable cartridges yet

3 hours ago, ddelgrande said:

So if I was to use my DIY DTG P600 would I only have to change the inks to print DTG?

The reason I ask is I'm interesting in printing white and wonder if DTF is less harsh on the printhead. 

It's supposed to be more forgiving.  I just left 1 of our 2 printers with DTF inks sit for 5 days. The white was watery and I had to do an ink charge but got a good nozzle check.

3 hours ago, Gualalasmooth said:

Is there a hot peal transfer paper? Because I see Supacolor transfers are hot peal ,are they the same as DTF?

I've only used cold peel. 

11 hours ago, NWD253 said:

Thank you all for the input. Doing the vinyl stuff for me is a wash in money made, for the most part it's in my free time and when I don't need to do much around the house lol.

I do want to make a better product and if I can do that quickly, maybe I will start making money at this.

Next thing is to look into the software that you all are using and understand some of the settings when printing.

 

Everyone is using DTG RIP software

11 hours ago, Ricardo Carrillo said:

Hi! Sorry do you have any idea how to flush all the ink if you want to put the dtf ink? Also what modify you have to do in a p400 or p600?

Put in refillable cartridges that have flushing solution,  then on the p600 run ink charges and the p400 just run some head cleans.

6 hours ago, Jonmusa said:

Wear i could find DTF supply

https://store.opendtg.com/collections/dtf
 

we will have more selection of film sizes this week

Powder cost is pretty low.

Yes the film can be expensive. I have a large load coming in this week and will price it fairly. 
 

it will depend on the size of the sheet and how many you buy. 50 cents to $1.50 ish

2 minutes ago, Printboy said:

If this were you, would you sell your print/cut and buy a p600 DTF?

I would test and see some DTF first and make sure it works for what you print most often.

11 hours ago, Jonmusa said:

Wear i could find supply for dtf i have the p600 im looking for good pet film

https://store.opendtg.com/collections/dtf

It's been used in Asia for months.

In my opinion they're the best transfers I've ever seen. The feel will be better than vinyl

Basically they've come up with a combination of ink, transfer film and powder that works well with digital printers.